Comments on: Obama Wins http://www.secularconservative.net/the-presidency/obama-wins/ Mon, 10 May 2010 01:39:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Cephus http://www.secularconservative.net/the-presidency/obama-wins/#comment-87 Cephus Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:27:49 +0000 http://www.secularconservative.net/?p=191#comment-87 No, I'm pointing out that we have *NO CONSERVATIVE PARTY AT ALL IN THIS COUNTRY*! There is virtually nothing conservative about the Republican party, they aren't the party for small government, fiscal responsibility or keeping the government out of your life, such a party simply doesn't exist anymore. Saying the Republicans are better than the Democrats is like saying cutting off your hand is better than cutting off your whole arm. Both results suck. Right now, we know the disaster that continuing the Bush tactic will bring and that's precisely what McCain promised. We'd be getting 4 more years of more of the same nonsense, driving us quickly into the third world. What we need to do is vote *NO* for the Republican "business as usual" plan and tell them why we're not going to be voting yes again until they clean up their act. I may never vote for another Republican candidate again at this rate. No, I’m pointing out that we have *NO CONSERVATIVE PARTY AT ALL IN THIS COUNTRY*! There is virtually nothing conservative about the Republican party, they aren’t the party for small government, fiscal responsibility or keeping the government out of your life, such a party simply doesn’t exist anymore. Saying the Republicans are better than the Democrats is like saying cutting off your hand is better than cutting off your whole arm. Both results suck.

Right now, we know the disaster that continuing the Bush tactic will bring and that’s precisely what McCain promised. We’d be getting 4 more years of more of the same nonsense, driving us quickly into the third world. What we need to do is vote *NO* for the Republican “business as usual” plan and tell them why we’re not going to be voting yes again until they clean up their act.

I may never vote for another Republican candidate again at this rate.

]]> By: Janus http://www.secularconservative.net/the-presidency/obama-wins/#comment-86 Janus Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:56:07 +0000 http://www.secularconservative.net/?p=191#comment-86 So, because the Republican Party isn't conservative enough, you want to roll over and hand the more liberal party of the two parties a blank check? What part of that makes sense? That's like trying to put out a grease fire with gasoline because the water didn't work out so well. No, the Republican Party isn't perfect, but no party is. If a policy is wrong, its wrong. It doesn't matter who proposed it -- if its wrong, I'll oppose it. The simple fact of the matter is that the Democrats are wrong far more often than they're right. They're wrong on the economy, they're wrong on taxes, and they aren't any better than the Republicans on civil liberties these days. While we obviously disagree, I'll take a "maybe" over a "definite no" any day of the week. So, because the Republican Party isn’t conservative enough, you want to roll over and hand the more liberal party of the two parties a blank check? What part of that makes sense? That’s like trying to put out a grease fire with gasoline because the water didn’t work out so well.

No, the Republican Party isn’t perfect, but no party is. If a policy is wrong, its wrong. It doesn’t matter who proposed it — if its wrong, I’ll oppose it. The simple fact of the matter is that the Democrats are wrong far more often than they’re right. They’re wrong on the economy, they’re wrong on taxes, and they aren’t any better than the Republicans on civil liberties these days. While we obviously disagree, I’ll take a “maybe” over a “definite no” any day of the week.

]]> By: Cephus http://www.secularconservative.net/the-presidency/obama-wins/#comment-85 Cephus Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:27:26 +0000 http://www.secularconservative.net/?p=191#comment-85 As opposed to allowing the Republicans to borrow $10 trillion dollars that they have no hope of repaying, you mean? It's the same deal, the money just comes from different sources. Neither party knows how to live within it's means and that's supposed to be a hallmark of the Republican party, isn't it? Fiscal responsibility? When is the last time we saw a Republican candidate promising that? The unfortunate reality is that as much as the Democrats aren't much better, they certainly are better than what McCain promised to do, which is continue to fight wars we cannot afford, simply because he, like Bush, hasn't got a clue how to formulate a decent domestic policy or how the economy works. Given that we know what a failure the Bush years have been, I say give someone else a chance, it's got to at least have a shot at improvement over 4 more years of the same old tired failed policies. As opposed to allowing the Republicans to borrow $10 trillion dollars that they have no hope of repaying, you mean? It’s the same deal, the money just comes from different sources. Neither party knows how to live within it’s means and that’s supposed to be a hallmark of the Republican party, isn’t it? Fiscal responsibility? When is the last time we saw a Republican candidate promising that?

The unfortunate reality is that as much as the Democrats aren’t much better, they certainly are better than what McCain promised to do, which is continue to fight wars we cannot afford, simply because he, like Bush, hasn’t got a clue how to formulate a decent domestic policy or how the economy works. Given that we know what a failure the Bush years have been, I say give someone else a chance, it’s got to at least have a shot at improvement over 4 more years of the same old tired failed policies.

]]> By: Janus http://www.secularconservative.net/the-presidency/obama-wins/#comment-84 Janus Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:38:31 +0000 http://www.secularconservative.net/?p=191#comment-84 Throwing the baby out with the bath water is never a rational response. You can't let the Democrats raise taxes, increase the burden of the welfare system, ignore our international commitments, regulate the economy to death, nationalize our education system, and socialize our government just because you're upset over Bush's foreign policy and religious stances -- especially when Obama supports the exact same faith-based initiatives and anti-gay policies that McCain supported. The Neoconservatives have fucked over our party, yes, but that's not a reason to roll over and let the Democrats run rough shot over the principles that have made this country great. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is never a rational response. You can’t let the Democrats raise taxes, increase the burden of the welfare system, ignore our international commitments, regulate the economy to death, nationalize our education system, and socialize our government just because you’re upset over Bush’s foreign policy and religious stances — especially when Obama supports the exact same faith-based initiatives and anti-gay policies that McCain supported. The Neoconservatives have fucked over our party, yes, but that’s not a reason to roll over and let the Democrats run rough shot over the principles that have made this country great.

]]> By: Cephus http://www.secularconservative.net/the-presidency/obama-wins/#comment-83 Cephus Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:53:19 +0000 http://www.secularconservative.net/?p=191#comment-83 I'm not at all opposed to it, I voted Obama, I wanted Obama to win, not because I especially like Obama, but because we, as a nation, cannot afford another 4 years of Republican rule. Bush has ruined this once-proud nation to the point that it will be decades, if ever, that we return to our former glory and McCain promised more of the same, especially with his choice of God-squad idiot Sarah Palin. So no, while I wish there was a better candidate to vote for, my vote was cast not so much to put Obama into office, but to keep McCain and all he stands for out. Maybe the Republicans will realize this defeat was caused by their close association with the Dominionists on the religious right and eject them from the party, but I doubt it. I’m not at all opposed to it, I voted Obama, I wanted Obama to win, not because I especially like Obama, but because we, as a nation, cannot afford another 4 years of Republican rule. Bush has ruined this once-proud nation to the point that it will be decades, if ever, that we return to our former glory and McCain promised more of the same, especially with his choice of God-squad idiot Sarah Palin. So no, while I wish there was a better candidate to vote for, my vote was cast not so much to put Obama into office, but to keep McCain and all he stands for out.

Maybe the Republicans will realize this defeat was caused by their close association with the Dominionists on the religious right and eject them from the party, but I doubt it.

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